He did not consider canonical to be a synonym for scriptural. Learn more about the history of the Vulgate Bible with this article. a facie tua gentes turbentur. Thus, if I want to know what Hebrew scripture said (short of learning Hebrew) I’m probably best off comparing and matching meanings, and then translating the common meaning. As I see it, there are two ways to approach these two translations of the Hebrew. In 1546 the Council of Trent decreed that the Vulgate was the exclusive Latin authority for the Bible. More specifically, the current discussion is over the respective chronologies found in those two manuscrip… That the Septuagint is the most authoritative text in the Orthodox Church is something that is confirmed in just about any Orthodox catechetical text you could consult. Real critical editions (for example, every one of the hundreds of critical editions of Greek and Latin texts in my office) are revised only when an editor thinks he's printing something closer to the original than what had been printed. I was under the impression that the Douay-Rheims Bible is the closest English translation to the Vulgate? Rwflammang 17:25, 24 January 2007 (UTC). [Cpt|Kirk 11:30, 23 March 2006 (UTC)], The article states that "The main critical source for the Stuttgart Vulgate is Codex Amiatinus[...]" This puzzles me, as the Stuttgart critical apparatus refers to dozens of manuscripts as well as to several editions, with no one single source, it seems to me, clearly standing apart from the others. 152 views. A certain tension is preserved by the words επανω and super, that prevents us from saying that the spirit was somehow interacting directly with the water. On the left, you have a critical edition of an ancient Greek text. If we are to say that the Bible has been inspired, we need to know what it contains. A third level of meaning however, also must be appreciated. TomHennell 11:12, 29 January 2007 (UTC), I don't have a problem with your moving of the text at all, in fact, I approve of it. (Just compare the 2nd and 4th columns on of the psalter comparison here.) The Bible was first translated into Latin during the fourth century, and it was referred to as the Vulgate. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Somebody said that something should be said about the way some books or portions of books were marked doubtful and put in separate sections because they were only found in the Greek, and how this later paved the way for Protestants to see them as Apocrypha and completely excise them from the Bible. I'm not sure what the editors were attempting to reconstruct, a majority 6th century Italian text? You’re currently reading “Genesis 1:1 Septuagint and Vulgate Comparison,” an entry on Credo Ut Intellegam. Most of my Bibles are translated into English from the Masoretic Text, the NA or UBS Greek text, and the Greek Septuagint (most also infrequently referring to the Vulgate). (It’s different among Eastern Catholics.) I was under the impression that it simply meant that here was a bible written not in the educated languages of Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek — but in Latin, the language of the people. I have altered rest of the Old Testament to the rest of the deutrocanonical books, as that is what I think is meant. The Stuttgart's apparatus is reliable, and this means that there is no variant in any known source for the Vulgate's text to justify any of the variant readings in the Nova Vulgata. In the beginning God created heaven and earth. There is obviously a larger disagreement here, in that you believe that the Nova Vulgata is an edition of Jerome's Vulgate in any of its books ("a minor revision of 70 of the 76 books of the Clementine vulgate... a major departure in only three ways"). Thus, rather than using the Latin Vulgate, Greek-speaking Catholics historically have used the Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament and the original Greek New Testament. But no, it's the NRSV, not the RSV. They might be based on the Vulgate using the LXX and the MT for purposes of comparison (e.g., to decide between disputed renderings), but the Vulgate was the base text used by most Western Catholics. 1 Esdras (Esdras A /) and 2 Esdras are one pair of double traditions found in Septuagint collections (see as well the double traditions of Daniel and Esther). I'm sure the people who wrote the 20th-century Latin I've just quoted are under no illusion that they're printing Latin words authored by Jerome or anyone else from the pre-20th-century history of Latin literature. If not this is a point worth bringing out. See here for [http://www.amazon.com/Biblia-Sacra-Vulgata-R-Gryson/dp/1598561782/ref=sr_11_1/104-0262503-3642309?ie=UTF8&qid=1182787422&sr=11-1 new] and [http://www.amazon.com/Biblia-Sacra-Vulgata-R-Weber/dp/3438053039/ref=sr_11_1/104-0262503-3642309?ie=UTF8&qid=1182787530&sr=11-1 old]. The Septuagint was around the 2nd century BC while the Vulgate was from the 4th century AD so definitely the LXX, however the main benefit of the Vulgate in my opinion would be the inclusion of 4 Esdras which is basically the jewish Book of Revelation but goes unacknowledged to this day. It may even be worthy of being considered a commentary on the books. 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